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Karolina Jackson-Ward
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This is now implemented in the current planning tools. Read more in the release blog: http://blog.projectplace.com/2014/06/25/agile-gantt-with-...

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Tool looks good, but DEFINITELY need to see dependencies - else it will only be possible to use for a high level plan..

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Agree with the comments above. If you guys don't make any function for planning with a sort of dependencies, this tool will never be successful among porject leaders.

The interface is really fresh, and I love the flexible way to make tasks and move them. But as mentioned above, I really need a way to keep the tasks in relationship to each others. If not, I unfortunately needs to make Microsoft Project plans as well, and I guess that wasn't the origin thought....

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This is great as a basic high-level planning tool, it has a good intuitive user interface, however is will have no future unless dependencies can be implemented and presented on the visuals. I would suggest baselining and the ability to track progress are also bare minimums

Great start - but it needs more work before it can be considered as an effective tool.

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Hi,

Thanks for your feedback. It's really nice to hear that you like the interface and find it easy to use. This is exactly what we were after. We tried to design something that we were missing ourselves, something that was better for planning than excel but easier than ms project. Something that would make it fun and quick to make a plan of your project and let other people see and comment on it.

All your suggestions will be mulled over for future versions of Projectplace Planner. Sometimes, like in the last comment, the ideas are worthy of their own post. To make the voting and prioritisation easier.

Have fun with the Planner,
Karolina

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Without possibility to define dependencies the system is useless for planning purposes.
Åke Rullgård, pidoc@swipnwt.se.

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I disagree with the need of dependecies. Although at some times it can be handy with links, most of the time I add those to MS-project it just totally screw up the nice easy to view layout.

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Nice layout plans & easy to comprehend -> Keep it simple (ProjectPlanner is very good)
Complex & detailed plans add dependencies -> Such a plan tool already exists (MS-Project)

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I repeat my previous comment:
"Without possibility to define dependencies the system is useless for planning purposes.
Åke Rullgård, pidoc@swipnet.se"
and takes the opportunity to correct my mail address which was incorrect previously.

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Hi everyone who is following this idea,

We have discussed this and would really love to understand the underlying need for dependencies better.

Is the need graphical? Do you want to SEE the critical path in your project planning, the logistics, and have an easy way to push things on the time axis of your project plan.

Is the need operational? Will work on a specific task be delayed the exact number of days/hours of the task that it is dependend on?

Please try to take a minute to update us on why you need dependencies and help us understand how/if this is something we can accommodate.

All the best,
Karolina

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Hi,
I support very much the need for dependencies.
Plans change causing tasks to delay or prolong. To manually change every dependant task individually is making the tool too inefficient to use.
A workaround could be to have a multiple select of a group of tasks and then shift all in one action.

regards,
Theo Hendriks

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Hi Theo,

Thanks for your comment. The work packages in planner let you move groups of tasks backwards and forwards in time easily. Please check out this film about it:)

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Hi everyone who is following this idea,
We have discussed this and would really love to understand the underlying need for dependencies better.
Is the need graphical? Do you want to SEE the critical path in your project planning, the logistics, and have an easy way to push things on the time axis of your project plan.
Is the need operational? Will work on a specific task be delayed the exact number of days/hours of the task that it is dependend on?
Please try to take a minute to update us on why you need dependencies and help us understand how/if this is something we can accommodate.
All the best,
Karolina

I would say both. If you have lot's of task that is needed to be done in a specific order it's a major pain if you realize that one of the first tasks in the chain is changed and you have to manually go in and change dates on everything after that.

Also if you have parallell paths that will be merged in the end it's is hard to see what will be the critical path if you don't have real dependencies tat show up in the graph.

From my point-of-view this is the major drawback with PP that the work plan isn't not really what you need as a Project Mgr and dependencies is the one drawback that sticks out the most.

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Thanks for your comment Nisse:)

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This is still something that we are looking for more information from you about. What is the big attraction? Please let us know what the actual need is. I have posted a question in this thread a couple of times and haven't had a lot of replies. If this would really help you, please let us know in which scenarios dependencies are necessary and if you're using Planner and/or Tasks for your plan.

I use the Gantt Chart for project management, and the dependency functionality need to be improved.
There are two major functionalities that are crucial for the tool to be useful:
1) Dependencies on group of tasks and milestones.
One shall be able to set dependencies on groups of tasks and on milestones.
2) Dependencies when replanning.
When changing the duration or moving one task/groups of tasks the depending tasks/group of tasks must also change dates.

A nice to have function would be setting dependencies directly in the Gantt Chart, but this is nice to have, the two functionalities above are more like "must have".

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I agree with Mathias. I have newer been in a project that doesn't need replanning. Without proper dependencies in PP you still need to do the replannning somewhere else (MS Project etc) and then go back in PP and change the dates manually. Then you loose the advantage of having everything for the project in one place and there are lots of unneceesary extra work.

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Thanks for clarifying Mathias

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Have you checked the work packages function with a fixed structure in that we have in Projectplace Planner? I linked a film about it in an earlier comment on this thread. Could that be an option to make it easier to do replanning?

All the best,
Karolina

No, that functionality is not good enough, dependencies are crucial.
It’s a mess trying to reschedule a project without the dependencies.
Right now you have to work with two tool, like MS project and PP, that is not good.

The problem with Planner is taht it's not fully integrated with the rest. If you use it for replanning you have to import again in PP and the you loose the history of what's already been done etc.

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