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Karolina Jackson-Ward
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We have discussed this and come to the conclusion that this is not in our road map. Some sort of collaborative authoring might definitely be considered in the future though but not necessarily the wiki format.

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Karolina Jackson-Ward
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Here's another wiki idea

http://ideas.projectplace.com/feedbacks/225572-wiki-funct...

Don't forget to vote for eachother's ideas.

Joachim Schirra
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Hello Karolina,

could you maybe merge the tow ideas? From my perspective my idea (where you provided the link in your comment) and the idea of Daniel are absolutely identical. The only difference are the examples we both provided. But this does not matter. The idea is important - and from this point it does not make sense to keep them separate.

@Daniel: Great idea. ;-) I am only afraid of the low probabilty of Projectplace to realize this...
I think it would be quite useful in the daily projectwork for clarification of unknown topics to everybody. And of course, there should be a possibility to link from WIKI articles to the regular documents in the project.

If there furthermore was the possibility to have the WIKI in usage across different projects, other projects could profit from the knowledge in the Wiki. Assumes also, the authorization topic is considered adequately...

Regards,

Joachim

Karolina Jackson-Ward
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I can't merge the ideas without loosing the votes.

There are lots of wiki fans at Projectplace. It's not completely impossible we'll find a way to incorporate the wiki usage models into our solution. Good point that wiki content might want to be accessible across projects. Challenging too.

I agree - the wiki would be very useful - not only in the project phase though. If we use it for documentation purposes it is extremely important for us to be able to export the wiki after having finished the project, as a zipped html for example.

While project management and communication is very well covered in ProjectPlace, collaboration is relatively weak.

(1) We need wiki in all of our large projects. The first one is an EU project where we need to write reports in a group of 20+ people. The report coordinator would create a wiki template (stub) and all others will contribute. There should be a possibility of linking content from the rest of the PP (documents, photos) + generation of Word docs. Of course, version control and wiki grammar must be there by default. The second project is related to fusion energy, where we have to fill in lots of forms (non-conformance, change etc.). The third case is documenting work progress, let's say the main page for WP1, links to tasks, relevant documents, text editable concurrently...

(2) Forums seem to be not quite enough for collaboration. First of all, they are located in "other" tools (out of sight). Then, there is no possibility of linking documents to forum items. No way to attract attention of members to a forum topic (in this respect, "Request Review" is a great-great-great feature!)

This about it: instead of command&control we need collaboration&communication. The only part that needs urgent attention is collaboration. Wiki is the key here.

Implementation option: external wiki engine + links from Wiki to files (the same as "send file by email as link"). Wiki topics accessible from PPlace via web links (now one can use external FTP site for storing large content, e.g. movies, linked from PP docs)

Patrick Ohl
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I am pretty new to projectplace, but thought 'cool!' it's simplicity makes it effective! The only thing missing to run the whole project in one place is an integrated wiki. The document part does unfortunately not cover this, as it much too static.

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I fully support the idea of having the possibility to associate wiki to project to enhance the collaboration and not only the share of information. In my view it's a way to go one step further.

Karolina Jackson-Ward
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This business case in being produced at the moment...if you have any further input it is welcome.

Karolina Jackson-Ward
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We have discussed this recently and were wondering if it is specifically wiki functions you want or if online documents, that live only on Projectplace and are editable and searchable could be an alternative.

What do you think?
Karolina

Anonymous
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Like OneNote!

Joachim Schirra
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Hello again to everybody, hi Karolina

Wow, as time goes by... Around one a half year ago (maybe even a bit earlier), I already started the same discussion here.... http://ideas.projectplace.com/feedbacks/46347-wiki-functionality-to-clarifiy-terms-and-to-provide-a-glossary-or-explanations

The bad news is, the topic still seems to be under consideration by means of a business case. On the other hand, that is at least a good chance for a positive decision. If I have a look on all comments given in the feature request of Daniel and in the identical request of me, then I am really overwhelmed by the huge positive feedback to our common suggestion. Summing up the credit points we both got from all of you for this idea we now have around 106 credit points. If I am not wrong then it is justified to say that there seems to be a big demand for this feature. I hope therefore that the PP team will again think about a possible support of this idea in future. On the other hand I just realized that they requested more input. Well let me try to give just a few hindsights for you. As I wrote in my thread, Wiki functionality would be helpful for terminological clarification of topics, words/terms coming up during the daily crazy project "circus". As we all know you get confronted with so many buzzwords, terms and so on in a project, that you need a way to document clarifying definitions and explanations very quickly and maybe by means of teamwork. That is the reason why we all like Wikipedia so much. It enables us to bring clarification quickly to a large mass of users. So, something similar to the mediawiki software(which is the technological platform of wikipedia) would be really helpful.
To make it a bit preciser the following key features might hopefully inspire you for your own development:

  • WYSYWIG editor (still a big painpoint in wikipedias software although there are pretty good solutions available since years)
  • Version control (absolutely mandatory) and version comparison
  • Protection mechanisms. Commonly agreed definitions need to have the possibility to freeze them

    • Powerful search mechanism (similar to Wikipedia´s search capabilities -> i.e. full text search and full text indexation)
    • Support of tables
    • Hyperlink links
    • Capability to insert pictures, graphs, photos...

    or - to make it short - like my last predecessor already wrote: similar to Microsoft OneNote - which is really a great electronic notekeeper. ;-)
    Best regards,

    Joachim

Torbjörn Lindgren
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Could someone from Projectplace please comment on the progress in this matter, please. The wiki-idea is far more modern as an approach to documentation than the document-metaphor is.

Regards
Torbjörn

Ed van Harlingen
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I fully agree with Joachim in the comment above. Today we were discussing the need of a glossary and how great it would be if we could fit that into a Wiki-like functionality. It would save us a lot in terms of maintenance, actuality and speed, if Projectplace could provide in that. Concerning the demand for a wiki by so many Projectplace-users, the development of a wiki-like engine within Projectplace should be top-priority and an update of the status, as Torbjörn suggests, seems more than appropriate.

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Does anyone from PP read this? Joachim's comment above has been left unanswered for a couple of months?!?!

Karolina Jackson-Ward
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We do read and we discuss the top ideas here regularly. Right now the road map is pretty full as we are focusing on presenting great improvements for collaborative planning this year. Once that project is nearer finalisation, we will have more room for new development. The wiki idea, or something that is a more modern way of collaborative information management for projects is certainly an attractive idea.

Best regards,
Karolina

Karolina Jackson-Ward
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I am looking for people who I can contact about this idea to better understand your needs. Please email me your details and when you are available to contact in the next week. Just click on my name and there's a link to mail me:)

Thanks,
Karolina

Karolina Jackson-Ward
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Since this is a top idea we discuss it at the Product Council. Right now we are looking for your input on what is most important:
Make your opinion heard http://app.emarketeer.com/ext/form/entry.php?m=149131aee4...

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