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Karolina Jackson-Ward
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Yap was implemented as Projectplace Planner

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Nils Odelius
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Seems to be very interesting; I represent an advertising agency and we run a number of projects, each project representing phases like: Briefing/assesment/research, creative development and idea generation, presentations to the customer, further developmens, final agreement/descision on activities, agency production and sub contractors production, final approval, delivery from agency. So, to what extent can you tailor specific phases?

To Peter; all phases should apply for each project; and, yes, all projects would be more or less similair, so if one could save Yap plans as templates - it would be great!

Does every project contain all those phases or do you create a new project for each major phase? Regardless. I think a Yap plan could contain all phases as you can create groups of tasks.

Are your projects so similar that you'd like to be able to save Yap plans as templates and reuse them? If so, please file that as an idea on this forum.

Some comments:

  • Fast
  • Easy
  • Usefull

Remarks:

  • How can we import it in Projectplace
  • It blocks now and then
  • Will it be an integrated version/ stand alone

Thanks a lot!!! Looking forward to it!
Robert

Ulrika Lindeberg
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Nice!
I would like to reorder tasks. I tried to drag-and-drop, that seems intuitive to do in both views.
(is it supposed to work in FF? doesn't for me).

Andrew Aguilar
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fast and intuitive user interface but missing key functionality that would enable it to be used as a serious scheduling tool on any more than a simple project.
Basic functions it needs to have are:
linking of tasks to create dependancies
keeps dependancies when adjusting tasks - i.e. extend duration of high level task and lower level tasks that are linked with a specific dependancy move with it.
ability to enter start, duration, and end dates via keyboard.
ability to add a 0 day deliverable / milestone for product based planning approaches.

Projectplace Labs
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@Ulrika: please suggest that reordering of tasks from the structure view as an idea of its own. I'm not allowed to vote for it, but the non-Projectplace people here are. Yes, it should work in Firefox. Do you get any error messages?

@Andrew: We're thinking on how to support date and time entries via the keyboard. And we will add milestones too. Task linking is something we're not planning to add, unless we find a really, really simple and intuitive way to do it. But please suggest it as an idea of it's own and try get support for it. We are listening. We are.

Projectplace Yap Team
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@Ulrika - The ability to drag and drop things to restructure (in both views) is definitely on the road map, but not implemented as of the March 31 test drive.

Andrew Aguilar
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Disappointing to here your not planning to add task dependancies to the tool. For me personally that kills any decision to roll the tool out accross my programme.

For me the power of an interactive tool such as PP is that it combines project plans with actions, issues, risks, and documents in an interactive collaborative environment. This is something that delivers significant business benefits when managing a number of projects accross multiple stakeholders and locations. All good stuff. But if the scheduling tool doesn't support task dependancies, it doesn't have the power to schedule complex WBS's.

Let me give you an example - I currently have 26 projects running (by 3 PM's) , each project has a WBS with between 80 and 300 tasks / deliverables. Some of the deliverables have touch points accross several of the projects. So if the supplier of that deliverable tells me there's going to be a 9 day delay (for arguments sake) and that deliverable is used in several projects, and the deliverable itself has multiple child tasks - the scheduling tool needs to automatically update all down-stream tasks when I change the delivery date of the item in question. If I have to do that manually - a) it is a large overhead in terms ot time, and b) I'm likely to miss something making my schedule invalid.

My point is this: Other systems out there do this at the click of a button, as does MS Project. I don't understand the rationale for a PM tool that doesn't support this. Go look at the competition. "@task" is great for scheduling, but PP is better in some respects and doesn't need a lot of customsing before use. But without the basic scheduling functionality, well . . . . .

The rationale is that the tool is targeted at simpler planning scenarios than what you describe. We're not seeking to compete with MS Project really. MS Project is a great planning tool, but a bit complex for less advanced users. Yap is targeted at the latter group. (We probably could make that much clearer on the Projectplace Labs site.) Still, please express this task dependency need as an idea of it's own so that the other users can vote for it and comment on it.

That said, we're also thinking about how to better support more complex projects. We'll soon be making Lynx, a tool from A-Dato, http://a-dato.net/, available for test on Projectplace Labs. It has support for task dependencies, supports several scheduling engines, has advanced resource control and more. It also has the potential of integrating really well with our service. I hope you'll want to stay tuned on Projectplace Labs activity.

So, Yap isn't one planner to rule them all. Neither is Lynx. Maybe we should offer both and let our customers choose the one that best suits them? If you think so please suggest it on this site. However, we're not committed beyond the Lynx test drive yet. Customer feedback from that test will help us decide.

@Nils: Belated response, totally missed you answers to me. Anyway, please suggest saving Yap plans as templates on this forum. It's a feature that the Yap team is seriously considering and user support for it could tip the scale.

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Yap looks very nice! It would be nice with the possibility to assign tasks to certain people though, and other meta data.

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hello,

nice tool YAP! But how do I save the planning and open it later in YAP?

regards, Martijn

The ability to assign resources (and other meta-data such as descriptions etc) will definitely be there at some point although perhaps not in the earlier versions. Right now we are really focusing on making the planning part as fast and smooth as possible (since this is the main thing we feel is lacking in most other planning tools).

When it comes to saving/exporting etc we are currently wrecking our brains at how to best integrate Yap with the projectplace tool. At the moment it is only possible to export a file and import it into Projectplace Tasks. When all is said and done you can expect to see some or all of the possibilities to

  • open previously created files in the Yap
  • export files to other applications (MS Project, Lynx)
  • save yap files directly within your project or personal space
  • and perhaps even a more complete integration with the Projectplace task tool.

We will do our best to finalize the first and second of the above points in our next prototype which will come out sometime in the beginning of June.

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This is really something extra. Fantastic and very useful tool for lots of Project Managers. Great!!!!!

Karolina Jackson-Ward
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We are in final testing of the beta version of Personal Edition and Projectplace Planner (previously known as YAP). We are hoping to release it very soon. A new category has been added for feedback and ideas for the beta. Please look there:)

Karolina Jackson-Ward
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Yap was implemented as Projectplace Planner

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